Rental Property Investor · Chicago, IL · Member since 2015 · 50 posts · 13 votes
It seems like you would want all expenses included right? As I understand it the cap rate is telling you what percentage of the total price you'll make back in a year?
So why would you exclude the mortgage payment because that IS an expense.
Real Estate Investor · Macedon, NY · Member since 2016 · 251 posts · 290 votes
7y
I would assume it's because everyone's mortgage payment will be different so it would render the cap rate number useless. I may put 50% down and do a 30 year note. You may put 10% down and do 15 years. That generates a huge difference in payment so we'd come up with dramatically different cap rates based on all other numbers being the same. By basing it on a cash purchase it comes out the same for everyone. You obviously need to count the mortgage expense in your numbers but using cap rate gives you a way to compare properties with no mortgage cost variable.
Real Estate Investor · Macedon, NY · Member since 2016 · 251 posts · 290 votes
7y
I would assume it's because everyone's mortgage payment will be different so it would render the cap rate number useless. I may put 50% down and do a 30 year note. You may put 10% down and do 15 years. That generates a huge difference in payment so we'd come up with dramatically different cap rates based on all other numbers being the same. By basing it on a cash purchase it comes out the same for everyone. You obviously need to count the mortgage expense in your numbers but using cap rate gives you a way to compare properties with no mortgage cost variable.
Rental Property Investor · Salem, OR · Member since 2017 · 696 posts · 660 votes
7y
Cost of debt is not an indication of the performance of the property. An example is what if I own the property free and clear, my cap rate would be much higher than someone with a loan if it was included in the cap rate, but that tells us nothing about the underlying property. I am trying to make it understandable and not just a technical answer :)
Parsippany, NJ · Member since 2016 · 64 posts · 49 votes
7y
@Thomas Welker
Mortgage is not an expense. Expenses are profit & loss statement items.
Morrgages are liabilities. Which belongs on the balance sheet.
This is why you hear people always say, “the cap rate is the % return if you had paid 100% cash for the property”.