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Ben D.
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Cash out of California?

Ben D.
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Fontana, CA
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I have a SFR rental property in Fontana, CA that is worth 390k and I owe 255k. I am 1 year into a 20 year mortgage and have had same renters for 6 years no problems. I am not cashflowing, but obviously trying to pay down principal. I have entertained the idea of selling, doing a 1031 and find multiple properties out of state that will provide some cashflow and potential appreciation. I also currently have one SFR rental in San Antonio that is cashflowing 250/month with a 20 year mortgage. I have looked at Dallas, San Antonio, Indy, Florida, etc.

Obviously, I could leverage into many more rental homes in a variety of markets, but I am a part-time investor and doubt my ability to find great deals in out-of-state markets, especially under the time constraints of a 1031.  I would probably be looking at turnkey solutions, or using my property manager / realtor in San Antonio, who has served me well.

I am most interested in hearing opinions about the benefits of holding my current position longer / forever versus exchanging for cheaper multiple units in another market with less potential appreciation (Cashflow vs. Capital appreciation).  I know it is an individual investor's preference, but hearing others' ideas on what I could do with a 1031 would help me process various potential investment scenarios.

Thanks

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Matt R.
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Here is the thing. Anyone and their pet cat can find houses in cash flow markets. They are on nearly every street. Why is that? Why is cash flow so easy to buy? How is something that incredibly cheap when compared to same physical product in Cali. Why when you list your house in Cali now it sells 98 to 99% of list price? Is there more intrinsic value in Cali? 

Don't get me wrong cash flow is good. And everyone has different investment needs so there is no single answer here. Just that Cali longterm has blown away cash flow markets in the creating wealth dept. It is not even close really. Still no single right answer one vs the other. And past performance..blah blah blah you know. I just like to examine the investment facts. San Antonio could be awesome too. What I do know is historically Cali has been rewarding longterm investors like the goose who lays the golden eggs. Keep that in mind if you are trading gold for silver.

Here is what the LA Times says June 2014. 

"The Inland Empire east of Los Angeles is projected to be one of the fastest-growing large metropolitan area economies in the country over the next six years, according to a forecast released Friday at the United States Conference of Mayors."

The IE is projected to be a top growth area in the country for decades to come is the info I get. To bail that position now.....well it better be for more than just run of the mill cash flow is my take. Think about this. Why is there not one single turnkey company doing business in Cali? Is it because the properies are bad no, because there lack of cash flow right. Well you could rent out 2 parking spots in Cali and make is much cash flow as you can in many markets.

Here is my first blog post. Appreciation vs Cash flow. Maybe you will find something there to think about. 

http://www.biggerpockets.com/blogs/5937/blog_posts...

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