Even someone of his phenomenal fortitude has limits against a dread disease.

@Tyler Jahnke Also gotta chime in here and say how impressed I am with your fortitude in the face of adversity.

If you are really serious and have the fortitude to succeed as an investor, please do you due diligence, continue to research your niche whether it be Fix and Flips, Wholesaling, Buy and Hold, etc, try to find a REAL MENTOR who is not money driven who will actually help you by giving you the real DATA you need to become a success and meet whatever real estate goals you have set out for yourself..

Distressed homes are hard to find, and I am learning that I don't have the fortitude to withstand the rehab process.My goal continues to be finding residential and commercial (office/conference space) property for rental purposes over a one- to five-year period.

Hey @Larry Caper, you've clearly done an incredible job on building really strong fundamentals in the MF space, so I can see you have the fortitude needed to succeed in REI. 

And if you don't have the fortitude to do that, then your words are meaningless rants of wants and never do..... 

If those work in your favor, and you got the fortitude to invest then keep going.

To obtain real-world experience in real estate investment, start by examining homes, researching the market, and putting bids together.Remain Tenacious: Investing in real estate calls for perseverance, forbearance, and fortitude.

I have been a landlord and investor for over a decade AND also work as a senior/regional property manager so I feel like I see both sides and have some good insight on this- manage yourself if you have the time and fortitude to do so, you will make mistakes but it will pay off, get a real estate license (not hard to do plus you can sell and buy properties and get commission) and know the laws, be willing to do the research, NO ONE IS GOING CARE AS MUCH ABOUT YOUR PROPERTY AS YOU- that being said, not everyone wants to has the time ect or headache or likes asking for rent…FIND A MANAGER THAT ALSO IS A LANDLORD INVESTOR, I can’t tell you how many property managers I’ve tried training and that failed at our company because they just don’t get it from an owner or investor side, like “no tenant we aren’t going to come replace your stove again, no we aren’t going to clean your bathroom cause you didn’t , ability to analyze when to do maintenance and not, ability to explain to tenant owners POV, I tell every owner I am not telling you anything I haven’t done or I’d do my self, a lot of property managers are blue colar type workers and have never invested in their life and just done get it, 4 out of 5 property managers fail at my company because of this especially for single family homes, find a PM with speciality in SFH for your area, for example, a PM in Birmingham MI (upscale area) will fail in Detroit or lower end markets (but that’s were the best ROIs are)

I got to be honest about Phil Grove.His training gave me the fortitude to stay in the real estate business and see th career and the opportunity that is actually always available.