Quote from @Luis Maza: Hi all, returning to the game this year and would like to pick your brain a bit, we started working with a wholesaler that will send us properties here and there with the "wholesale" price, but every time we check the properties and add the numbers, the margins are, well, I am not sure, too low perhaps, maybe we are getting to picky, but this is my dilemma for example...Today we got a property, wholesale price 300K, rehab about 50-60K, ARV is about 440k, but with the cost of hard money, we have about 100k cash, hard money interest at 11%, keeping the property for 90 days while we finish the rehab, closing costs,  commissions, we ended with 30k profit before taxes, while it sounds appealing, adding up all expenses and cost we ended up expending 50K on rehab(labor/materials) and about 50-60K with cost of the loan, interest, commissions, etc, everyone makes money, happy with that, but it seems that we are working to produce a 100k for everyone else, while we make 20-30k if everything goes well...In my opinion, we are not really getting "wholesale" price, it seems that we either buying to expensive, rehabs are much more than we would like to spend and the cost of borrowing that money is too high...We came up with thoughts as: lets fund it ourselves with money from a close friend/partner that we will bring in, and that would save us 10-15k here and there, but still, is that the norm now?

If things are tight or you don't have expendable income to invest I would go turn key. 2-4 unit properties would be great, the goal is to minimize your monthly housing expenses to save so if you are occupying a unit you will probably not cashflow

You're not purposefully causing the sun to expend energy on the home.

It bothers me 1) that aids health foundation is expending money on rent control rather than aids health.  

Its common place and I just dont have the time to combat the bad reviews or expend the energy.

Not so much, I think it is their self described "band of scrappy bankers and engineers" actually just trying to create a white label service where the QI has no liability and no effort to expend other than holding the money in some account doing heaven only knows what to make their profit.

It's owned free and clear no debt but has taxed my expendable capital.

No, I think it is their self described "band of scrappy bankers and engineers" actually just trying to create a white label service where the QI has no liability and no effort to expend other than holding the money in some account doing heaven only knows what to make their profit.  

If I buy at 850k I would have very little expendable income left to invest.

tend to believe everyone is motivated by money; people who are lifestyle motivated think everyone is motivated by the least amount of time expended; people who are risk adverse can’t believe other people are willing to “bet” on outcomes even when the odds are clearly in their favor. 80% of the time (IMO) people who make decisions we disagree with are not making stupid, ill informed decisions or being “tricked”; they just have motivation, needs and desires different that our own.