I am not trying to beat a dead horse here, but how would a lender look at someone that has just started a job that is 100% commission and not salary?

LLC's can't have shelf stock, so if a partner wants out, someone has to buy their shares (the LLC can't own shares of itself the way a corporation can since it only exists as a vehicle for the partners' interests).

Trying to not just dump all my money into the stock market (I come from a heavy baby boomer family and they keep telling me to just get gold) nor just have it sit in savings wasting away.Background: I really enjoy looking at real estate.

Although I don't have any practical real estate investment experience, I have dabbled pretty extensively into other investment avenues such as stocks and mutual funds primarily trading in the tech sector.

And stocks are too risky.Also, by self financing to me and receiving installments, they could potentially save a lot on their taxes.What do you think the success rate of this would be?

On the farm we called that buying a dead horse, one just about ready for the glue factory.

the 2nd association it resonates is the highly consumption-driven society we live in. in my area (coastal, urban southern california) i'm surrounded by 2 distinct lifestyles. there's the majority: seems like 95% of the local population who are renters, driving luxury cars, sporting fancy clothes, jewelry, hairdos, etc but obviously living paycheck to paycheck as exemplified by hardly a day somebody or the other is spotted  getting their car repo'ed by a camera crew. the rarer are the landlords, who in this area seem to be of mostly asian demographics (chinese, koreans, japanese) who live obviously very frugally: old 80s model sedan, oldfashion business cloths, always eating simple meal from home, seemingly never splurging $$$ other than into expanding their portfolio), my observance is relatively very few landlords in the area own relatively huge portfolios, each.with the advent of these infomercials and the internet (ie, BP) more and more people want to get a 'piece of the REI pie' and more power to them. there does seem to be this dream of rags to riches and while its ok to dream, do most people actually expect their life to turn around like that, as portrayed in most of the infomercials or even in the everyday setting where the masses living paycheck to paycheck, are spending their last expendable dollars not on depositing into savings acount, but blowing $20 on scratchies etc. in summary, is my observation reminds me of my days when i worked on wall st and the 'ra trace' was so obvious with dime a dozen stock brokers makin 6fig salaries at some point but blowing it on recreational drugs apparently costing thousands of dollars a pop to the point the next week they are broke again and that $ wasnt invested but wasted.  

Cecilia (I put a stock picture of what that looks like below as wellLastly, along with the interior work on the 2nd floor being continued tomorrow, the plumber will be back to finish his work which will largely consist of de-winterizing the property completely.

When I buy a company stock I am buying peoples time and management skills, the assets of the company may or may not be worth much.  

The property Property $200,000 Down Payment 20% - $40,000 4 unit complex – rent per unit $800/month ($3200/mo total) 2% Rule – at 2% this property would rent for $4,000/mo This property is at 1.6% 50% rule – 50% of rental income will go toward expenses This property would be $1600/month This expenses include – repairs, vacancies, utilities, taxes, insurance, managements, turnover costs, and occasional big ticket repairs Net Operating Income – NOI Income after fees, these would be the fees listed in the 50% rule and do not include principle and interest For this property - $1600 (not the true number, but based on 50% rule) Cash flow Any money left after subtracting principle and interest from NOI Prinicple and Interest – 30 yr fixed at 4% on $160,000 - $764/mo Cash flow = $3200 - $1600 (NOI) - $764 (P&I) = $836/mo or $10,032/yr Cap Rate Annual NOI/purchase price $19,200/200,000 = 9.6% Return on investment of $40,000 over 30 year life of mortgage Cash flow - $10,032 annual return – 25.1% return 30 years = $300,960 This is a conservative estimate since this money could obviously be re-invested as it was received monthly and the rent would be increased to reflect inflation over the 30 year period Property value at 3% appreciation for 30 years $485,452 30 year total return on $40,000 485,452+300,960 = $786,412 This is a ~10.5% annual return on investment $40,000 invested in stocks/mutual funds at 7% would have returned $304,49I believe this is all correct, but wanted to get some feedback to confirm my understandings of these concepts was correct.