The people for some reason had water turned off and were doing the deed every where.

People like to make things harder for themselves because they think some mysterious pixie dust will give them protection from Bigfoot and cannot answer the simple question“Why are you so concerned you need a LLC to own property over insurance”

My wife and I are in Mchenry County area, looking to network and meet as many people as possible that’s as obsessed with realestate as us!

Thanks.Most people set up a CRM at this point.

Basically, befriend someone with experience, read the book on estimating rehab costs by @J Scott to get a ballpark, and get reps.2.

I see far to many people blinded by low prices on Zillow that expect to buy great assets for less than a Kia.

AND try to find a market where you do not have to compete as much with 2nd home demand - a place where people go to vacation but is not top of mind for a rich guy's vacation home destination (ski town, lake house, etc.).If you are asking for the secret market that returns 20% cash on cash without any renovation or difficulty, that doesn't exist.

I've heard too many horror stories about people that pay cash for a property because they think they are getting a deal.A moron of an owner could see they could get a much higher price if they just put in the exit signs (etc) and then sold to someone with a bank loan. 

and how do I go about dealing with this.Unfortunately this is business, some people suck.

I was fortunate to meet some phenomenal people in Orlando a few weeks back at BPCON23!