Run numbers, make offers that make sense, take the wins when you get them.

The example above assumes that one has the discipline to save post-tax money and then to use it in real estate. if you can't enforce self-discipline, then clearly a retirement account wins hands down versus not saving plus spending your money and then having nothing come retirement time!

That way, it's a win-win. 

Trying to rent out an undesirable house is not a winning proposition.

The key to making a good deal is to create a win for the seller or at least the perception.  

Win-Win, you either get the increased rent or the ability to renovate. 

I agree with a win-win scenario for all parties.

I would be beyond thrilled if someone else wins it, as long as they fully understood that they are getting the SECOND, but it's unlikely.

Always remember to persist and you will WIN!!!!

Maybe later on in this thread we'll get to hear from some satisfied investors that have had good experiences with them, and it's probable that some of their employees will come on this thread to explain why they do things the way they do, but to me it seems like their business structure is set up to take advantage of new investors who don't know any better, and NWA seems to make more money on $5k non-refundable down payments and predatory lending practices than they make on conducting win-win transactions.