Hi I went to the Toronto one and split the 300 with a friend and to be honest all it was for me was entertaining and I was picking up on their sales techniques and I am in sales so it was funny to hear it.

I'd love to do the BRRRR technique but I'm not sure I have the time to build a portfolio that way, At this point. 

The bank will roll in owner financed portion after 3 years which at that time I will have secured approximately 15% of the value of the property paying down principle and will then hold legal title.

At the same time these amazing officers and sergeants that can lead a group succesfull into battle are the ones that let people move into houses without giving security deposits etc.

I don't know squat about NY RE, but it sounds like these sellers are trying to exclude folks using HML, and look for only a) All cash buyers or b) HELOC buyers.If you want to play in this arena, and that is what is going down, I'd suggest opening a HELOC on some other property you own with the highest maximum credit line that your equity position will allow but a $0 current balance.Offer accepted, max out the HELOC, funds arrive next day, show proof to seller.Then you would use the HML to pay off the HELOC a few weeks later, if you'd prefer that the debt be secured by the subject property.

@Daniel Moctezuma I totally can relate to be scared about quitting the security of a long term full time job. 

I look forward to becoming an active participant on BiggerPockets and learning every day, making new friends, and building a portfolio of RE investments that will bring cash flow and more security for myself and my daughter in the future. 

Those that do occasional sales want to feel security in a profession that has none.The hustlers make the money.

I was able to secure a hard money lender, but having difficulty in finding a private lender.

Also I would need to secure funding, but have a small nest egg to work with and like I said we have W2 income with great credit, low debt/income ratio.