For your information I had not flipped in quite some time before 1-1/2 years ago when my son-in-law @Ryan Mitchell and daughter expressed an interest in doing so.

She claimed that her adult son had just gotten a job and he would be helping to pay the rent.

Our son is old enough now should be able to do that this coming spring hopefully.

In the meantime, I got a call from the owner's son, who  happens to be an attorney (lucky me).

just logged into my biggerpockets account, and found this in my inbox:Hi XXX...Im an investor/rehabber in Canandaigua...I googled Doug Hirt's name and read your blog..just bought a furnace from him and he was adamant about getting $ up front for installing it...I was a bit confused he was demanding payment up front considering he told me he has 300+ houses, 10 employees, his sons worked for him and spends 6 figures monthly at lowes/Home Depot...does he have a reputation as a scammer?

Wholesaler calls says he has a deal "right in my neighborhood" (which is out in the sticks not in a neighborhood at all) Long story short: grandma/homeowner lives with son in VA.

As a parent, I want my sons (I'm not sexist - I have no daughters) to be better off and do better than I did.  

Apparently her son decided that her apartment, in my building would a grand place for a meth lab.I found out about the dead tenant and the lab in the same phone call with the police.

We used to do this in Silicon valley Palo Alto in the mid to late 80's when RE spiked for the first time.you needed 20% down in those days and will prices going north of 300 to 400k back in the mid to late 80s in Palo Alto Cupertino etc.. it was common for a partnership on SFR;sthe one living in the home got the loan and paid the payments etc.the equity partner provided capital ( downpayment) it was for 5 years.. house was then sold and equity split.. 

Honestly, it sounds like this complex is underwater and the father has pawned it off on the son to figure out how to get out of a mess.