There are some wonderful intangibles that come with going off to get an education so don't completely discount it... not saying it's right for everyone but just something to think about.

The problem with those sites, like others mentioned is they use old comps and if you know your area you can most likely discount some that are too far away just by looking at the street name.In a market that is rapidly changing you simply cannot afford to rely on outdated data, you need to know what the home is worth TODAY, not last year.Jeff

Hi, the daels I did in this arena were not structured as short sales are now and it seems to me that if you have the funds, your own money or any other funding to accomplish the purchase of a property from the owner with an agrred payoff from the lender, even if it is a discounted payoff, that that is the end of the deal.

I constantly get 'wholesalers' who email me about properties at a 'discount'.

Acquired at a signficantly discounted spread below retail3.

We HATE golf, loud Harleys and ultra touristy locations.4 would favor discount to ARV vs. low price.

I find that deeply discounted properties that scream motivated seller on craigslist does make my phone ring the most for finding buyers.I also had success with direct mail postcards to that zip code to non-owner buyers who bought in the last 5 months.Those are my successful things in finding buyers.Finding sellers is an entirely different problem for me.

Buying at 70% of ARV may be fine one day (actually it wouldn't...need bigger discounts) and be a big loser next week because the market has moved & prices have fallen.

I'll get a discount for the B-C close at the title company - as a result of doing IT support work for them, I had a chance to meet and explain my business to one of their closing attorneys.

These experiences help flavor your perspective and can offer new and old investors insights.Please don't discount what it is that you can share, it can be priceless to that right person at the right time.