:)  In fact, one of my cabins' HOAs is $50, and I was trying to cheap out and not pay it because all I seemed to get for it was a pool. 

The quality of them PM is one thing, but it only gets amplified by the quality (or lack thereof) of the properties and the resulting quality of the tenants.If you were to illustrate this with math it would look like this:  0.1 x 0.1 x 0.1 = your result.The answer to your question is obvious, but frankly easier said than done: buy quality properties with few repairs, they will attract great tenants with few issues and even a mediocre PM will do just fine.The allure of cheap cash flowing properties is real: After I had invested all my original capital I bough a few cheaper properties in Milwaukee (this was around 2010, so they were really cheap) and fortunately traded out of them within a couple years - it taught me a lot!

Wasn't cheap but we don't regret it one bit.  

Zillow, Realtor, Trulia (owned by Zillow Group last I knew) - and they're not cheap either. 

Reality is long term maintenance and cap expense is significant versus rents in the cheap markets.  

Get all the investors by listing a cheap fixer upper at a good price.

But remember, NOBODY is ever going to have as much love and interest in your property as you will, so if you want to be lightning quick with responses, getting everything as cheap as possible, etc: don't invest out of town.

Often times, fixtures and finish materials are not included because the owner may wish to choose something cheap or expensive and the contractor has no way of bidding without knowing those choices.

Outside of that can I make money either super cheap houses?

If they are it’s a pretty cheap fix.