So you don't think it looks horrible and must go?

. - If something went horribly wrong during the years that they owned it, they would be liable - but if something went horribly wrong 10 years before (or after) they owned it, it's not their problem.Does that make sense?

I could care less about knowing how to landlord, so I always use property managers and never buy locally (CA returns are horrible).I recommend turnkeys if you buy outside your area, and especially as a beginner investor!

Feel free to take a look here:[url]http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/223/topics/91583-my-first-5-deals-went-horribly-wrong-what-nextWe're all from the Boston area - and real estate changed my life.

I just wanted to be sure because like you said Ryan people will sometimes either lie or not have all the correct information and i've seen people go under contract and end up having a great deal turn into a horrible one real quick because of issues the owner was unaware of.

I should mention that they not located in horrible areas, but they are in lower income areas.Any insight is greatly appreciated.

$380/month might be a horrible deal.

It's not a horrible house and has potential, but seems to need some fixes.

I haven't bought anything in about a year because I can't find those deals right now,,the cheaper houses can still cash flow, and I'm considering buying a couple and seeing what they are like (ARV around $60k),,I found a deal recently on a house in an area I love that should have an ARV of about $160k,,but even at a good deal for today, it was a horrible investment, so I had to leave it alone.

I'm wondering if your concern is really about exterior finish but rather the horrible and depressing construction quality and lack of architectural distinctiveness in loads of CA houses.