Bryan, these loan proceeds are no longer part of the 401k and are treated like ordinary dollars.

Also, how do banks treat "subject to" owner financing?

Of course, they must have missed that one.You're running a business, treat it like one :DCheers,Mark

I would recommend PEX if you are on a treated water system (city water).

At some point consumers need to just rise up and state they will no longer be treated in this manner and move on to a company that will treat them right.

:)Jeffrey Smith - thanks for explaining the legal consequences in the case that the tenant/buyer can't make the payments on the option premium.Sounds best to just do them completely separately...so is there a good way to make money on these or are they mostly for recruiting good tenants (since they would hopefully be buying the property, they would treat it better)?

They have a homeowner mentality and treat my homes with great care.

I also looked at landscaping blocks, and ultra deck timbers but they are too heavy for blocks and too expensive for ultra.Regular treated 2 bye 10's cost about 65 bucks a window, metal 200 bucks and same for plasticWhat would you do?

Treat all parties with respect bro.

They are notoriously inflexible about treating a purchasing business entity separately from the owner/manager of the business.