. :) Hi Bill, When I was in estate planning,selling business continuation insurance, especially for MDs and JDs, we talked about FLPs, Family Limited Partnershiips, where creditors are hamstrung, Dad owns 1% but controls 100%, charging orders from creditors are difficult to execute. http://www.assetprotectiontraining.com/apt-flp-practice great offshore and FLP videos.

Remember you don't have to own a property to control it.

I did keep as firm a control on them as I could.

You should be closing 1 deal for every 10-20 leads depending on your ability to close and how creative you can get with a deal.It usually takes 3-4 months to optimize the campaign because you need traffic and "motivated seller" traffic isn't cheap right now.  

I was just wasting money by the THOUSANDS $$$$ creating "yellow junk mail".It's like having a website with tons of traffic but going broke because no one is buying.Response rate is one of the most overrated statistics in marketing, it can be an important measurement in the big picture, but response rate doesn't pay the bills.

I know the debt issue is controlled by the board, but I know the PM sways the decisions made.

There is a lot of value to me in controlling that property, for various reasons, such as your issue with the upkeep.

I was thinking of expanding my horizons up North since the Denver market is out of control. 

Open filings are a lot of trouble because ALL of the person's assets, including a house are under control of the Bankruptcy court until the BK is either dismissed or closed.

I'm not sure what type of investing you are interested in but for a fix and flip guy, you can use the MLS/RE agent license to:- pull absentee listings- comps- search for listings- knowing about properties as soon as they hit the market (you don't have to rely on an RE agent)- search for RE agents that focus on the type of properties you want to buy- identify areas that have the highest sales volume (this is where you want to buy when flipping)- get into properties on your own- are able to control the dealHere are some ideas on how to find listing:- absentee - MLS- pre-foreclosure - Listsource.com or newspaper- tax lien - town treasury department- probates - probate court or newspaper- equity leads - Listsource.com