It will be underwritten purely on the rent scheduling covering the mortgage payment .

And for brand value I'd argue there is no "nike" of PMc, so many can fluff the feathers and cluck how great there brand value is but I say show me the client stream coming purely from brand, I call BS to that "cluck", and say it's open air and opportunity for any to create brand value in a market and take market share where there is any lacking options in PMc quality or availability. 

Usually, you'll end up with some hybrid between pure self-insurance and purchased coverage. 

Ultimately, it seems like it is purely up to me whether I would like to build a relationship with anyone in the group and whether I will get anything worthwhile out of the group based on what I put into the connections present in the group. 

As a vendor, hundreds of our clients are property management companies (from mom and pops with 50 doors to PURE & HRG with tens of thousands under management).

It is pure data and that is why it WILL work for anyone willing to learn how to read, use and interpret that data and apply!

I'll definitely reach out and drinks on me. 

A few cities in Denver actually allow non-owner occupied vacation rentals (pure investment STRs), and then there's Parker, alone in its outright ban of them.MTRs are an interesting choice.

And there is no need to guess at it or pretend that Cash Flow has to be completely positive all the time.What I'm trying to do is to bring this horse (the Cash Flow Only crowd) to the water, but I cannot make them drink (educate yourself in the calculations so you don't have to be afraid of a negative cash flow).To me, if you buy based on either positive or negative current cash flow, then you are just not taking into account the true worth of your potential investment.

I've seen this happen... not between a borrower and lender, but in other business situations where an attorney brought a suit against both the LLC and the individual members of the LLC.Of course, if the lawsuit has no merit and is a pure act of desparation, it seems to be a waste of funds for the borrower when discussing options with the lender could work towards a viable solution.