LOLYou have to get them on the TOTAL cost of the total work they are doing.It sounds like the guy was quoting okay on the roof and then making much more profit on the gutters.When you split on him he raised the roof to keep his profit up.My buildings are just standard pitch with 4,800 sq ft 4 plexes.I got the roofs re-shingled for 1,500 a roof and the trash hauled away.You can find contractors that want extra work on the side that will do it for cheap.You have to catch them at the right time.It depends on what you are installing for.A long term hold for yourself,a short term hold where the building needs to be torn down for development in 5 years,a higher end flip.All will dictate what kind of finish you want and cost involved.Roofers typically love the retail jobs with fat profits but in between want the volume from investors.I tell many contractors NO all the time even after I tell them I am an investor and want rock bottom pricing.They tell me they will do it for me but not to tell the other investors what they charge me.This way they get volume from me and referrals and the other investors still get a really good deal but not the pricing I get.

Of course we all know how volatile the stock market is and should realize by now that would "should" happen isn't always what "does" happen.Some would say go with precious metals but I have no clue how you really value a pretty rock.

BP Nation rocked Denver!

Thanks Rich, I like the idea of short term rentals especially coupled with my real passion for nature and gardening.

Naturally....

WHo drew your lease agreements, are they rock solid?

With experience, which he doesn't have yet, he is a natural; I'm not as much.

For small projects that are quick-turn in nature the cheapest capital is generally either bank financing or private financing.

Old cathedral ceilings are an issue all over the country the nature of how they were build doesn't meet the new energy codes.

With a natural interest in real estate, good people skills, and sound judgment when it comes to recognizing value, real estate investment is a field I've long wanted to explore, and one I'm confident I'll be good at.Though I am not seeking a formal, mentor relationship at this time, I welcome contact from successful investors who may have encouragement or general advice to offer for starting-out in real estate investment.