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13 August 2021 | 7 replies
@Ahmed Megahed i just dont want to get sued for some sort of fraud or something.
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10 August 2021 | 13 replies
I suggest maybe shopping around to see if you can get it lowered I switched and saved about 500/ year/ property for identical coverage.
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30 July 2021 | 1 reply
Rent in the area for an identical house goes for about $1600 a month which for me would be only $300 cash flow a month if I decided to go that route.
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30 July 2021 | 2 replies
Do you look and act identical?
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2 August 2021 | 12 replies
We've had two negative experienecs with VRBO:1) Guest stole our TV's and then disputed their credit card payment2) Guest stayed an extra week without paying.In both cases, we found VRBO:1) Their support was useless2) They don't verify identity of guests, so now drivers license on file3) They use a 3rd party servicer to process credit cards, so couldn't help us dispute the guest's disputeWe even got the police involved and they spoke to VRBO and got nowhere:(Since then we now require ALL VRBO & AIRbnb guests to sign a lease via Docusign and provide a government picture ID.
1 August 2021 | 2 replies
You are buying it as a primary residence and need to live in it for a year or two otherwise you are committing mortgage fraud.
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2 August 2021 | 4 replies
It's fraud, you know it's fraud, even the legit prescriptions are more likely to coddle than cure, but it's the law and we have to abide by it.
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5 August 2021 | 4 replies
The 3 categories are:1: Second homes - Places people use for dwellings part of the year and leave empty the rest of the year, or maybe let friends and family use it for free.2: Investment properties - Rentals, Air bnb, you use it for 3 weeks and rent it the rest of the time...3: People trying to commit occupancy fraud by saying an investment property is a "second home" because they know it gives them a better rate.
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4 August 2021 | 2 replies
In the Real Estate Investing world we have a term for this very strategy, mortgage fraud.
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17 August 2021 | 9 replies
I am going to give a quick run-down of my situation to see if what I want to do would be considered mortgage fraud or finessing the systemI bought property 1 in 2019 and lived in it for 1.5yrs.