Occasionally we get a tenant that needs a keeper, and they think that's our job.

So they study and study and crunch numbers and read books and they talk to their wives, and years go by and they get the occasional comforting promotion and raise...and they don't do a damned thing, just talk about real estate investing and lurk in the forums and pop out occasionally to congratulate someone who looks like they're doing well.I'm 44 years old and I have multiple close friends just like this.

I will make some referrals occasionally and get a nice referral fee like if someone wants to buy a nice home in the Napa valley were I used to live I refer them to broker friend of mine or I have made some referrals to the brokers who work for me in Charleston.. and referral fees are nice these are high dollar and tend to be 10k plus for just  sending a name.

Maintenance is likely to be higher, turn over higher, vacancy higher… the second thing I would encourage you to consider is the existing deferred maintenance, occasionally when people are selling its because they weren’t able to keep up with the maintenance, so don’t be afraid to walk away if the inspection list comes back a mile long.

thanks, Stephen i started it just hours ago and am going the poured-concrete route.put a bulkhead (shower drain) in the middle already of the framed 'pan' with 3" recycled abs leading to my garden irrigation channels.pretty much the only chemicals that will get added to the grey water will be very dilute antibacterial bar soap and the occasional leak while showering that cant wait after a few beers gardening under hot socal sun so hopefully the system's ecofriendly to.

And occasionally a backup occurs in between those routine snakes.

So, by occasionally staging for others, it essentially pays for the furniture.

I occasionally do this with rentals but we are talking about prior to a coat of paint and rug cleaning.

Occasionally you can find a deal inside a condo complex, but I rarely do.  

All we get are occasional responses of excuses (frankly, idc- yes, it's been a tough time, we've all been hit hard.