I've been diehard on the podcasts for a little over a year now.

You find an incredible team, with price points that work, an ROI that meets your goals and an area that's been vetted by other investors, but you're die hard sticking with BRRRR even though it doesn't make sense here. 

.- Even though we are diehard buy and hold investors, we are opening up to fix and flip now to take advantage of the sellers market.

I'm also a die-hard Dave Ramsey fan.So what you'll learn quickly is it takes more time to save up and pay cash vs. using debt, but gradually it gets easier because your returns will grow in terms of real dollars. 

Still 70% Discounted.Whilst the rest of the country has gone back to the pre-GFC levels, Detroit is climbing up there.With the investments coming in, only some die-hard hardcore investors, see the glass half full,As downtown 2 bed/2bath apartments selling at 350-400K a Pop, the writing is on the wall perhaps. 

I'm die-hard Oklahoma loyal due to the stability.

Will try again for the die-hards this morning. 

I am a die hard Lowes Fan.

They're about as realistic as Die Hard 4.

But if you are a die hard buy and hold, than it's a moot point because appreciation is only valued at time of sale or equity extraction.