and @Michael Sherwood I have been thinking of signing up at my local training school to get access my self but I heard the fees are crazy IDK but I'm still looking into that @Mark Ferguson getting together with these realtors and sizing them up would be a good thing Thanks to Everyone .

@Michael Thompson, thanks for the reply.let me rephrase.

Originally posted by Michael Seeker: Originally posted by Mike Wallace: seems like a no brainer to me.

Thanks Michael, a little concerned about that as we'll.

Joseph and Michael , when I do a cash out is that the same as a heloc ?

A number of investors I know use Michael Tartini on Northfield Ave in West Orange.

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Michael WentzelIf you don't mind sharing, what town or at least what area is this?

I have developed a method that is a hybrid between Jerry's technique and Michael Quarles technique, and added a little of my own.

Thanks so much everyone in the BP community for your time and help , appreciate it as always - Michael