Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:@Bill Gulley  Orange is the new Black    Or Dancing in the gray area will get you orange. 

In the last 5 years Cleveland beat San Diego, Memphis beat Portland, Indy edged out Miami, and while neither Honolulu or El Paso did well, El Paso did better. 

How does that justify them whipping up excitement with the whole song and dance routine and Encouraging people to spend what is to them a fortune or even worse going into debt to buy their program?

No matter what you do, what you say, what you offer, or any other persuasive technique you may offer up you can not create motivation when there isn't any.Its kind of like expecting to get a lap dance at church...

If wholesalers would actually learn real estate, they would know how to take title and profit much more than acting like a strawman, having to deceive sellers with "We Buy Houses" or "We Pay Cash", dancing along legal issues, dealing with invalid contracts and lying about what they are doing........just not smart to screw with a property owner!

We could go through the song and dance of economics but let's just look at how value is established for like service in an industry.

Like Philly  Balt  Detroit  Indy  those are areas were a wholesaler can do well.. you have the inventory sitting there waiting for you.In your market your not going to drive down the street and see 10 boards ups .. or one or two for that matter like you do in these other areas.. those are the province for most wholesalers.I was just in Cinnci.. that train left the station there as well. that's a very tough market.. as well. but up in middle part of the state of ohio and going north still lots of distressed homes.. 

Two things have been consistently true.  1- you can’t expect a lap dance at Church.  2- you shouldn’t expect to find a wife at a wedding dress fitting.