that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

The proformas are utter nonsense because they know the product is no longer a viable investment.

you not on one of the major listing sites you are missing a lot of revenue potential Penny wise dollar poor

I don't see it as an issue but many still do, at least in my small town where the majority of renters are elderly people looking for low maintenance housing options.

The major pieces of information you are missing include NOI which includes deducting all of your operating expenses from your gross rents sans debt service, market dynamics (what are vacancy rates and asking rents like in the market the building is located in?)

The details of the incident remain unclear, but they intentionally granted access to someone who subsequently stole major appliances.

Plus macroeconomics here in Columbus is booming right now because of developments from Intel, Meta, Amazon, Honda, and lots of major companies building out here.

Two, you'll have a much easier time obtaining a mortgage product if you have a track record of W2 income.In the meantime, continue implementing the strategies you mentioned: save religiously, build your credit, pay any existing debt owed, etc.

In my case I began a “serious” real estate education and experience in 1979 ; by mid 1981 I was able to successfully conclude what for me, at the time, was my first “major” purchase.

@Polat Caglayan The majority of investors who become involved in the section 8 program do so because they purchase lousy real estate and leasing the units to section 8 tenants is the best option on the table.