I am not saying that the info you will get in ANY system is completely useless, but I am saying that you need to beware of these "guru's" that will allegedly teach you to set up some "automatic" or "effortless" system that will make you wealthy in real estate.

Cash flow can make you rich; appreciation can make you wealthy!

This place is a wealthy store of info.

you can become wealthy beyond your imagination.Stay active on the forums and I swear to you you'll never regret it!

His company sells "luxury" property off the plans for wealthy migrants and apparently anything else is "social housing" renting to the lowest of the low of society. 

That is what the wealthy are investing in. 

He was wealthy by my standards, but he didn't look happy. 

Doing so on a small amount of earnings would be much more advantageous than on a larger initial sum they may hold in a retirement plan today.Rather than disparage the use of a self-directed retirement plan as you do, I would take away from your post this: Solid strategies in real estate investing such as you have outlined are a fantastic way to create wealth. I

Not going to give advice on where you should put your money, but if I had a dime for every kid that called me after taking a course in some hotel ballroom that was opening up a syndication or fund, I would be very, very wealthy.

Play around with the BP calculator - use a $1 million property - and study how the long term numbers change as you modify cash flow and appreciation.You need CF to stay in business, but wealth is created from appreciation and deleveraging your loans.