This would give you a more standard metric to compare apples to apples. 

I love real estate and I've made lots of money with it but if I could go back it time I would have bought Apple stock 10 years ago and just sat on my butt til now... oh, and maybe a little bitcoin 2 years ago!

OMG I would have choked someone out.I think you got the bad apple obviously, but thank you for sharing.

@Paul Callaway for the west coast investors, I can help with rental helocs. 65% LTV, I/o payment option, $450 max on origination costs, west coast only.

Don’t let other’s opinions discourage you & cover your apples :)

Anyone having super odd capitalization issues on the iOS app?

It isn’t all 🌽 and beans here, but there’s a thriving millennial market, aided by the population/demand of Drake University, Iowa State University, DMACC, Grand View, and Central College students, insurance market (one of the largest in nation, as seen in population of actuaries here, and Drake churns our pharmacists like no other due to their 6 year program), and the building of Facebook, Apple and Microsoft server centers around here due to nice tax breaks.

Up to 80% ltv depending on the market, 30 year am, potentially an I/o component again depending on the deal.

Even accepts Apple Pay for the younger generation:) @Travis Urquhart2.

They can both be great paths to wealth over time but you are comparing apples to oranges .