Especially not listing in the dead of winter.How did you add value to the deal?

Reason and diplomacy dead on arrival?

Quote from @Ryan Shekell:Not to kick a dead horse, but why are you in such a rush?

They hit the sewer pipe near dead center.  

@Sam Ojo  I read through the 3 years of posts so I kind of understand.. if this program is touting no money down owner finance commercial real estate.. well that's a tough one to a non starter in todays market.. sellers are not that desperate .. you can do that in areas that are dead and dying but who wants to buy that stuff.and when you can pay 10k up front and then they talk about splitting 500k.. this is simply reminds me of a very successful syndicator I worked for in the 80's he had a billion dollar portfolio then I did acquasitions for them it was a great job as I was a RE broker and got my commish when they took the building down.. no risk on my part.. work as a broker plus he paid me monthly and health insurance LOL.But that all saidhe had a phrase... : DROWN THEM IN FUTURES  "  this to me is like that take folks that have rally no experience in something that takes a ton of experience to get good at @Joel Owens give them a cheap buy in .. lead the carrot with the 500k which is more money than most of these folks have ever made or dreamed of and yes they jump in... to me just same ole same ole guru stuff.. and the Guru makes most fo the money on the 10k and monthly other wise why charge either of those if they are making 250k per student.. that would be the big money.. why because they don't do a ton of it ( maybe ) I just don't see this in todays market as being real.. or achievable for folks that don't have like Joel says significant liquidity to buy commercial and experience... you want expe3rince in commercial get a license go work for a commercial broker get paid to do your apprentice work and like many of us 10 years  into the career you start making some significant coin.if it was as easy as pay 10k and 197 a month.. there would be NO commercial property to buy you guys would own it all.And again if this is all about nothing down owner finance that ship sailed over the horizon many moons ago.my 2 cents.

I'm ready to get smarter about this new venture with hopefully not falling into the 20 Deadly Mistakes!

Part of our business plan is networking and i have really come to realize Biggerpockets is a great platform to be part of. I dont usually share much but I plan to start.  Here is our first flip as Rykir Enterpsises LL...

Reason - "They found a dead guy in a car down the street." 

I am trying to avoid deadly mistake #1 emotionally loving a property before I crunch the numbers.

Each lead needs to be touched at least 5-8 times before I would consider it a dead lead.