There's a huge difference in taking on this kind of deal if you can buy it for 50k and put in 40k and have it worth 160k.

Talking to a retired family member who used to do sales and see if he would be interested in taking the calls for a commission? 

That mentality only begot more violence.What I ment was it is only in taking the time to understand them that we can do more to prevent that type of mentality.Thanks for the sarcasim though I did get a laugh.

At the very least, do an initial consultation (sometimes free) and see if anyone is interested in taking your case.There's a real possibility what you bought is worthless.

If you don't know what a deal looks like I have a little PDF on my site for thise that people can get with my newsletter (not pitching; just mentioning).I supggest you have a "lead sheet" to use for intake when talking to callers.

What are some tips from experience in taking a HELOC from my home for the down payment on a rental?

As I mentioned, I'm not interested in taking on a client and doing a custom home.

If you have adequate mechanical ventilation in your bathroom - a bath fan and/or HRV recovery intake - you do not need an operable window, especially over a tub w/ shower.

@jay @Jay Hinrichs It's good to hear from you, I always value your intake.

I also know that for the most part in taking my baby steps that the makeovers I see, probably are too costly for the type of houses I am involved in, but the ideas are worth looking at the shows.The one thing I have belief in is the staging they do.