They deal with sophisticated repeat buyers different kettle of fish as it relates to the buyer pool As long as you have gurus and u tube pitching get rich with out any of your own money you will have this constant flow of unlicensed people coming into the business lets face there is not enough properties to go around for every one who wants into the get rich with no money schemes..

Do I like managing properties more than fishing with my kid(s)? 

Happens every day ... and fishing every day on BP.

It's always been and always will be a magnet for every big fish in every small pond, a safe place for misfits of all kinds, where bored suburban kids dream of moving to "for the experience".

In theory all of those things work.. in reality they rarely do if your not in the business full time IE  an agent or broker.. on the street level .and its regional as hell .. in some markets you can trade real estate like a used car broker you can buy properties for 5 to 20k each and do something with them.in other markets that is not enough money for a earnest money deposit .. so market matters.. your goals matter of course and your ability to capture capital or financing.Keep in mind Brandon is and has invest at least in the beginning when he used to actually participate on the forums.. in a little town on in central coastal Wa. that was basically dead and dying timber AG fishing town.. and properties were not expensive and you had motivated sellers.. he was not in Seattle..

Betting on Detroit is betting against a very long trend of decline, but investors are no longer bottom fishing IMO.

@Brandon Fish Generally banks won’t count income from the tenant’s rent until you have 2 years of rental income on your tax returns.

An honorable mention is The Fish That Ate The Whale: The Life And Times Of America's Banana King by Rich Cohen.

The lake doesn't freeze over thick enough in our area to allow ice fishing.Does the lake in your area freeze over thick enough to allow ice fishing?

Were will Californians go .. they will go were they always go and that is Orygun.Water here goes first to the fish then ag then peeps.