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22 January 2025 | 6 replies
25% is the going rate, high end 30%/35%
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4 February 2025 | 11 replies
Many experienced mentors in this group can help guide you in the right direction.I highly recommend saving as much as possible and setting aside a hedge fund for financial security.
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10 February 2025 | 9 replies
>The likely rent I'd get in this area will cover half my mortgage payments at the momentI have done all of my brrrr in different market and I have the same issue that after a refi to extract the value add, my high LTV property at current rates is large cash flow negative (not as large as only covering 50% of the mortgage).
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10 February 2025 | 3 replies
Just a different takeNow this is not to sayPS - those houses that were priced way too high and languish?
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1 February 2025 | 7 replies
The good news is that it will still serve as a house hack when we move, as there are multiple units on the property.Our concern is that it is in a high fire prone area.
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4 February 2025 | 7 replies
I specialize in investment properties, high-end homes, and commercial real estate, and I run Updegraff Group Realty, a full-service brokerage that helps investors not only find and fund deals but also manage construction, optimize returns, and scale their portfolios.Financing Your First Deal Without Using Your Own MoneyIt’s a common question, and the truth is—it’s very doable, but it requires strategy and relationships.
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23 January 2025 | 2 replies
I have done this before and now find the risk just to high.
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31 January 2025 | 7 replies
However, there's a critical detail that many tax advisors conveniently overlook when promoting these studies.Here's the uncomfortable truth: If you're a high-income earner (AGI > $150,000) and not actively managing your properties, those promised tax savings might be locked away for years.
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9 February 2025 | 12 replies
Idk it could be me but nothing appraises high there.
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29 January 2025 | 16 replies
that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.