Once we start talking about bigger pieces of land that that woulud appear to developers (i.e. homebuilders or developers who do self storage, medical office, industrial, retail/commercial) then I usually can market to them without necessarily having to put on the market, because I know who the players are in SoCal, and that helps especially when seller doesn't want to do an exclusive listing, but will let you bring offers off market.But in general, for random pieces of land that aren't necessarily for the big developers/builders, you certainly need to put it on the market. 

. ;-)Attorney General’s legal action against Quality Loan Service results in payment to homeowners, delays foreclosures and stops deceptive practiceshttps://www.atg.wa.gov/news/news-releases/attorney-general-s... thanks for clarifying...if they were the players you had to contend with, i can see why the need for suit.

Assuming you have the drive, capability and desire to be more of active investor/player this is what I would do if I had $10,000 to start out.I would first get really really good at underwriting deals …and then find a property that has a 25% amount of equity upside in the deal day one and also a combination of healthy cash flow that can support the property DAY 1!!!.

The biggest players keep the wheels turning by deal volume and keeping people busy.

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My team has been dominant in this area for years, but with the strong appreciation the last two years the numbers just don't work anymore (normally).

I think there are locations where you won't find anyone dominating the area, or kicking *** remodeling homes. 

Avg days on market (DOM) in Suffolk so far this year is 53.

Just like your favorite NFL player doesn't.

Sort of like your quarterback and key player, in my opinion.We spent about 6 months interviewing PMs, calling as prospect landlord, calling as prospect tenants.