Home prices have decreased over the last 18 months so there is lack of good options and values still above normal. 

that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

@Chris Lin,Thank you very much for spending time with me on the phone last night. 

Follow up to my last post.  

And technology aside, this business hasn't changed much in the last 20 years.

My last one 2 weeks ago was $47 which I pass on to the tenant.

@Philip Beckwith,  Since this last post is only 5 months old and you are in Grand Rapids like me, have you had any follow up/results / success since this last post reply? 

The charts below show the median price trend during this more stable period.The higher appreciating zip codes during the 5-year pre-Covid period appear to be:89032 (North Las Vegas), 10.2%89015 (Henderson), 9.7%89131 (Centennial Hills), 9.2%89031 (North Las Vegas), 9.2%89084 (Aliante), 8.5%89011 (Henderson), 8.1%89123 (Silverado Ranch), 7.9%89141 (Blue Diamond, Southern Highlands), 7.4%89134 (Summerlin), 7.3%Rent Growth10-Year Rents $/SF by Zip Code 2015-01-01 to 2024-12-31The higher rent growth zip codes for the last 10 years appear to be:89032 (North Las Vegas), 7.1%89011 (Henderson), 6.8%89084 (Aliante), 6.4%89145 (Summerlin adjacent), 6.4%89031 (North Las Vegas), 6.3%89134 (Summerlin), 6.1%5-Year Pre-Covid Rents Trend $/SF by Zip Code 2015-01-01 to 2020-03-01The faster rent growth zip codes during the 5-year pre-Covid period appear to be:89002 (Henderson), 7.6%89015 (Henderson), 7.0%89032 (North Las Vegas), 6.8%89031 (North Las Vegas), 6.0%89011 (Henderson), 5.8%89145 (Summerlin adjacent), 5.8%Concluding ThoughtsIf past performance is any indication of future performance, the data shows that properties in certain parts of North Las Vegas, Henderson, Centennial Hills, Silverado Ranch, and certain Summerlin areas may appreciate faster than the other areas of our target area.

Quote from @Michael Baum: Hey @Bret Ceren, I did a survey last year (I think) where I spoke with 10 lenders.

If you refi a property in an MMLLC and then distribute the loan funds, there is likely no tax consequence.