I can tell they are both on top of their game.

We talked about the pros and cons and he said I had to meet his partner, Ron who is a part owner in a CrossFit gym and sits on the board of a sports marketing and gaming company.

@Jake Baker Love the approach of measuring the total offers that you send, if you know your strategy most of the time it is a numbers game no matter the condition of the market. 

Real estate is a long term game and a lot of podcasts, reels, etc will show you examples of 25 year olds retiring from their 400 unit section 8 portfolio in Cleveland.

That said, you deserve a management team that treats your properties with the same level of care and attention as they would for larger clientsI’ve heard from other investors that finding a great PM company can be a game-changer.

You can build your own team i.e. title co, insurance, pm, contractors, handyman,process server, lender etc.... or you can find an operator who can get you going in that market while simultaneously building out your team.Section 8 housing is a great way to ensure consistency with rent payments however not all tenant who have HCV pay 0%.

When you are new to the game, agents, wholesalers, other investors, and even you can push you around.

No heart shaped tubs are arcade games in this one. 

There are plenty of entry roles from cold calling, scrubbing data and find deals for investors, leasing assistant, work on construction sites, office admin, project coordinator, Title assistant, RE photographer, transaction coordinator.. on and on. 

I agree with you and @Doug Smith because I been laughed away enough to realize that aint the game anymore.