Bottom line, the money I spent to learn from Pace I have made back 10 fold!

So get your cash out and put into a good one, where that deal can recover the lost money and make more.You wouldn't keep putting chips into a bad hand in Poker, you'd fold. 

Bitcoin is pure speculation (like the roulette wheel in Las Vegas).There is no way to add value, there is no way to buy low and sell at market value.I'd rather have real money--the folding kind--mean green.

Here is a forum that has been tracking this firm with more analysis and called the capital call 5 months ago and says with the layered in preferred equity the original common equity is getting even more pushed down:https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/real-estate/another-one-bites-the-dustashcroft-capital Thankyou for posting this link Stef, interesting discussion there and very interesting Video link to Ashcroft's 15 min webinar about 6 months ago about their predicament, WOW, they had to spend 18.6 million for 12 months of Rate Cap insurance up from 513K they spent for same insurance they got 2 years earlier, on their 9 properties, which was for 24 months not 12 months, so a 36 fold increase.

By folding the $5k commission into the price, the seller's expenses just went up.

You fold. 

If you were fortunate to have made a lot of money during the run ups, it’s important to know when to hold ‘em and when to fold ‘em ;)

They were clearly hoping that I’d fold, denied having lied, but (surprise!)

In both cases, the product has more or less folded or become inaccessible.

I think of those classifications in a two fold way.