We didn't pay any of that out of pocket.The icing on the cake happened just the other day. 

It also means working smoke detectors, tight railings, shoveled and iced sidewalks.

The mom thing, come to think of it, is the icing on the cake.

for some one in Cali, you may not think of things like like tenants moving out in the middle of the night in January turning the heat off,  and opening the windows, Ive seen quite a few properties with busted pipes that look like Ice Caves a few days later, also snow removal ordinances, most municipalities will remove snow for you after 24-48 Hours after a snow fall if you or you tenant dont, it will be charged to your tax bill, at a rate of $200+ dollars per time,  just stuff to think about

I know what you mean, been looking at some of the areas you mentioned and it is difficult to crack the ice, but i am not giving up.Cash flow is going to be a hard to come by as the sellers are sticking to their guns.

Seller financing should be icing on the cake or possibly a way to get the deal done if you can't qualify for a conventional loan but it should not mask a deal that doesn't make sense.If you want to calculate the value of you buying with seller financing you can calculate the Present Value (PV) of your deal based on the concept of time value of money being that money paid over time in the future is worth less than money paid now.

Midland Snow & Ice Management in Villa Park is one but I think they only do commercial, give them a call.

The local economy is worth about 130 billion dollars, putting Tampa Bay among the fastest growing metros in the country.Furthermore, businessmen Jeff Vinik, owner of the Tampa Bay Lightning hockey team, and Bill Gates have partnered to invest in Tampa.

Additionally, my brother agreed to manage it - icing on the cake!

Hi Mike,Thanks for breaking the ice!