I searched in Property Appraisers, property shark, and any source of information where i can find the owners current address or any type of contact info but all i get is that address where the house is vacant but obviously no one lives there, kinda strange but i would like to hear from experts on how you find property owners because im new to this and been trying to get my first deal under agreement to wholesale.

We have a mail slot on the door as well so tenants can drop off rent in a sealed envelope with their address and name on it.

Competition is brutal for the suppliers so they're forced to keep their margins razor thin leaving little wiggle room for generosity. 

In a meanwhile I rent out parking slots.  

I'm a small fish in a big pond...but one day will become a shark!

And PM was behind bullet proof glass and razor wire at their office. 

Hi Paige-  I certainly have felt the pinch of a razor tight budget in some of my deals, so I understand.

Start with the 4 plex.. live in it legally.. .refi it .. buy another FHA 4 plex live in it legally refi .Do this 4 times over 6 years and by the time he is 30 he will own 16 doors using his 4 mortgage slots  and  in the uber stable NW market and probably have some appreciation and huge tax bene's do this while your young and can make it work

It is other investors (professionals -often sharks), who would be my concern in a deal like this.

Am I better off just maxing out my conventional slots before I go the alternate route?