Madisonville seems like it should be an up and comer for all the reasons cited but we have not seen it yet. 

Now, in the 19146 zip code are the neighborhoods of Point Breeze  and Grays Ferry,  which are getting a lot of attention from investors and developers and is becoming an 'up and comer' but the hipsters aren't here yet.Moving to north of the city Center the neighborhoods of Fishtown and North Liberties is where you will find a lot of hipsters. 

@Dave Comer In my experience that's usually how it goes.

that comes from the rich people who have been successful. but i personally as a complete new comer feel like that is an insult.

I am new to this world full of great stories that encourages new comers like me to take chance.

. :)   No worries, looks like you have some serious follower too hahaha, me personally I like helping the up and comer, because that use to be me, and i hate realtors and brokers, no worries, but I thought someone had to take a shot at you ;)

@Wes Shive   sure   let me start with Apple,  Google,,, Facebook,, HP,, Varion, Stanford University, the 49ers, Sisco, Oracle, Genetech, The Giants, the Sharks The warriors, the Raiders,  and of course the new comers like linkeden and another 100 to 500 high paying jobs.. now compare that to anywhere else expect maybe Atlanta,, Dallas Houston and LA with Chicago right up there and of course NYC and Boston...

Because if you are, my friend, I will defend my title to all comers!

is a pretty common tip for new comers getting into real estate investing.

@Chris Comer the basic formula that most investors use is purchase price + repairs = 70% of the ARV of the property.