However, I will probably use one of the 4 step cabinet refinishing products (not sure what they are called)@Carrie Giordano - the dark wood shelfs and white combo might be nice I'm going to research some pics , sounds intriguing@Bill S. 

Even a new roof has a shelf life and will need replacing eventually.

So if you are technically $0 in and not paying mortgages, your returns are fairly infinite.

Jon, first off thanks for commenting and sharing your knowledge.jon i just wanted say, when i talk about cash-on-cash return i'm definitely talking about a CoC return with your financing in place (so if i was unclear about this i'm sorry, i just figured everyone would know what i was talking about) jon you are right there are some people that calculate their ROI only from the standpoint of how much money they themselves came out of pocket and don't include financing into the mix, actually the people who do this can make their return look infinite if they actually put NO money into the deal at all.but i say who is the joke on, when you can make yourself look like your getting this huge ROI percentage but are not making no money. so jon when i say what's your CoC return i'm talking about with your financing included.like with a 30% down (its hard nowadays) and a 7% interest rate over 30yrsthis is what me and this gentlemen was talking about, that's why he said i would be crazy looking for 20% CoC return properties with the factors i just stated above. he also said that if their were a property like that out there most investors wouldn't even see it because it'll probably go straight to a company like his in about two seconds.

Menards is good for finishes (lights, doors, tubs/showers, etc), but for builiding materials I still prefer Home Depot.Also, while Menards is generally cheaper off-the-shelf retail, if you go through the bid desk at Home Depot, it will be cheaper than any contractor discounts at Menards (no real contractor discounts that I've been able to find).

But at the same time, I'd have nothing in the investment, the returns would be infinite, and it would free my money back up to buy another property.In this scenario, what would you do?

That said, pull out all the stops:- Create a professional prospectus - a glossy printed edition with big photos that are focused as much on the lifestyle as on the property- Create a single-property website that recreates and expands on the prospectus- Contact every developer you can find personally and get a copy in their hands via FedEx- Consider a catered developers open house / party event- Obviously, high end professional photos, video, 3D walkthrough- Serious paid advertising in the high end journals, Wall St Journal with a big budget- Broker tour for high end brokers- $10,000 bonus paid at closing for buyer's broker who brings the successful offer by [target date]- Top shelf home warranty- Consider something outrageous - include a new BMW 530i with the purchase if under contract by [target date]  (roughly $60K)That's it - but I'm sure I'll wake up at 2 AM with more ideas...

I effectively get an infinite return on my investments now as I have zero money in the deal and it is positive cashflow and paying principal off.

It's tough to see the depth from that bathroom picture, but its a 1ft x 3ft recessed shelf (same size as the window above it)

Also the holes where screws and shelf supports go can get all loose and make parts wiggle.