Thank you, everyone, for your comments here.

@Arthur Savery there are some great comments already provided.

If you see any holes in coverage or other followup items, please comment.

If you responded to my previous post, I didn’t get to see your comment, but I’d love to continue the conversation here! 

Locally some investors say that Niagara county is actually a little more landlord friendly than Erie, but I do not have experience in both counties so I can't comment on that.

@Jennifer Fernéz I run sum numbers for you with our tool, see comments and pics below before refinancing and post refinancing .Financial Breakdown: Purchase Price: $200,000 Mortgage (LTV 80%): $160,000 Interest Rate: 6% (30-Year Amortization) Mortgage Monthly Payment: $959Upfront Costs: Down Payment (20%): $40,000 Closing Costs (3.5%): $7,000 Renovation Costs: $15,000 1 Month of Carrying Costs During Renovation: $1,548Total Upfront Required: $63,548Year One Rent: Monthly Rent Income: $2,000 1 Month Rent Losses during renovations (-$2,000): -$167/month distributed over 12 months Total Rent Income: $22,000 per year => $ 1,833 per monthMonthly Expenses: Mortgage Payment: $959 Property Tax (Assuming $3,000/year): $250 per month Property Insurance (Assumption): $100 per month Utilities (Hydro, Gas, Water): $275 per month Assuming 5% Vacancy: $92 Assuming 0 % Repairs & Maintenance first year because unit has been recently renovated Total Monthly Expenses: $1,676Monthly Net Cash Flow: $157Post-Renovation Refinancing Strategy after 12 months:So far, we’ve purchased the property, completed renovations, and rented it out.Next, you can approach the bank for a refinance to consolidate a portion of your initial investment into a mortgage.

The boot camp is great for anyone looking to become an operator in the space, although it’s also a good general overview over the course of a weekend (I believe it’s Friday Night to Sunday Night).To address the @Marty Sellis comments – we were a virtual company up until about a year ago, with employees around the country.

@Robert Quiroz I think all of the factors you have listed might contribute.So I’m not going to comment on that but I am going to comment on an assumption you made.If 85% of rents are below market on deals you underwrite then those contract rents are probably THE market rent.You can’t just go based upon area median income to rent ratio.First off urban areas are oftentimes street by street, block by block.

Read some other comments - I guess it is technically a cash out refi, but you're paying off a line of credit as opposed to putting the cash in your pocket which is what I typically think of when there is a 'cash out refi'.

When it comes to a lifestyle property, it's another ball game and all the comments you wrote make total sense, especially for people who like similar things in life.