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Help with this deal!
I need help analyzing this property.
Address:
2542 Glenn Terrace, Mount Penn, PA 19606
Asking Price: $209,000
Taxes: $5087 (they are really high in my county)
Renovations: $10K-$15K
Mortgage: Conventional
Credit Rating: 712 median
1. I have an interior design background and can make this property really cute, but is it worth it? I have to front a ton of capital.
2. I was thinking about getting the property, renovating it, and then cashing out 80% of the ARV to get some of the money back. Good idea or no?
3. What do you estimate the ARV? There is a 'comp' listed for $200,000, but it was sold as-is and needed great repair. I think if I make this house really cute, I could potentially get $240K ARV. But I don't know. What do you think?
4. What do you think you could rent this for? I have no idea. I think I could get at least $1700. Maybe $1800? $1900? $2000?
I don't want to spend all my capital, but I think I could potentially refinance and get some back. But then my cash flow won't be high, and when trying to get another property my DTI won't be great because 75% of the rent won't meet the mortgage. However, I like that there isn't a lot of work to do and I could still make the property really cute with not much risk.
Inventory is so low. Any help appreciated!
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Quote from @Jennifer Fernéz:
I need help analyzing this property.
Address:
2542 Glenn Terrace, Mount Penn, PA 19606
Asking Price: $209,000
Taxes: $5087 (they are really high in my county)
Renovations: $10K-$15K
Mortgage: Conventional
Credit Rating: 712 median
1. I have an interior design background and can make this property really cute, but is it worth it? I have to front a ton of capital.
2. I was thinking about getting the property, renovating it, and then cashing out 80% of the ARV to get some of the money back. Good idea or no?
3. What do you estimate the ARV? There is a 'comp' listed for $200,000, but it was sold as-is and needed great repair. I think if I make this house really cute, I could potentially get $240K ARV. But I don't know. What do you think?
4. What do you think you could rent this for? I have no idea. I think I could get at least $1700. Maybe $1800? $1900? $2000?
I don't want to spend all my capital, but I think I could potentially refinance and get some back. But then my cash flow won't be high, and when trying to get another property my DTI won't be great because 75% of the rent won't meet the mortgage. However, I like that there isn't a lot of work to do and I could still make the property really cute with not much risk.
Inventory is so low. Any help appreciated!
@Jennifer Fernéz I run sum numbers for you with our tool, see comments and pics below before refinancing and post refinancing .
Financial Breakdown:
- Purchase Price: $200,000
- Mortgage (LTV 80%): $160,000
- Interest Rate: 6% (30-Year Amortization)
- Mortgage Monthly Payment: $959
Upfront Costs:
- Down Payment (20%): $40,000
- Closing Costs (3.5%): $7,000
- Renovation Costs: $15,000
- 1 Month of Carrying Costs During Renovation: $1,548
Total Upfront Required: $63,548
Year One Rent:
- Monthly Rent Income: $2,000
- 1 Month Rent Losses during renovations (-$2,000): -$167/month distributed over 12 months
- Total Rent Income: $22,000 per year => $ 1,833 per month
Monthly Expenses:
- Mortgage Payment: $959
- Property Tax (Assuming $3,000/year): $250 per month
- Property Insurance (Assumption): $100 per month
- Utilities (Hydro, Gas, Water): $275 per month
- Assuming 5% Vacancy: $92
- Assuming 0 % Repairs & Maintenance first year because unit has been recently renovated
- Total Monthly Expenses: $1,676
Monthly Net Cash Flow: $157
Post-Renovation Refinancing Strategy after 12 months:
So far, we’ve purchased the property, completed renovations, and rented it out.
Next, you can approach the bank for a refinance to consolidate a portion of your initial investment into a mortgage. Typically, the banks prefer to refinance one year after the initial purchase.
To get to the ARV of $250,000 , I am assuming as follow:
Because you spent $15,000 in renovation, I am assuming you increased the Initial value of the property at 30,000 bringing it at $230,000
Add a 8.69% home appreciation for one year $20,000
Estimated Home Value After 1 Year:$250,000
Refinancing Breakdown:
- New Home Value (Post-Appreciation): $250,000
- New Mortgage Amount (80% LTV): $200,000
- Existing Mortgage Balance after 12 months: -$158,035
- Assuming 3 Months Interest Penalty for Breaking Existing Mortgage: - $2371
- Total Cash Pulled Out: $39,594, allowing you to recover to pay a portion of your initial investment of $63,548, leaving $ $24,015 in the deal.
Many new investors mistakenly believe the BRRRR strategy ends after the cash-out. It's crucial to evaluate how the deal performs with the new mortgage:
Updated Financials After Refinancing:
- Market Value: $250,000
- Mortgage Amount (80% LTV): $200,000
- Equity: $50,000
- Interest Rate: 5% (30-Year Amortization) Assuming after 12months the rate will drop from 6% to 5%
Monthly Expenses:
- Mortgage Payment: $1,074
- Property Tax: $260 (4% Adjustment from last year)
- Utilities: $309 (+3% Adjustment)
- Insurance: $104 (+4% Adjustment)
- Vacancy: $105
- Repairs & Maintenance: $105 (now after 12 months we can assume we have repairs at 5% factor on annual rent)
- Total Monthly Expenses: $1,957
Rent Income after 12 months assuming annual rent increase at 5% : $2,100
Cash Flow: $143 per month 😊
Year 2 Return on investment
- $2,951 Principal Paydown year 2
- $20,000 Property Appreciation (assuming 8% per year)
- $1,720 Yearly Cash Flow (this will increase as rents rise)
- $50,000 Initial Equity
Total Gain $74,671 with just $ $22,789 remaining in the deal.
Year 3 and Long-Term ROI:
- $3,102 Principal Paydown year 3 (this will keep increasing each year as you pay off your mortgage
- $21,600 Property Appreciation (assuming 8% per year)
- $2,568 Yearly Cash Flow (this will increase as rents rise)
Total Gain Year3: $ $27,270 giving you 113.55% ROI on your $ $24,015 left in the deal.
This is a good investment in my opinion.
Feel free to reach out if you have any further questions or need additional clarification!

