@Pat Gage, @Brandon Hicks, @Joel Owens, @Steven Picker I sincerely appreciate the responses, and you guys have given me a lot to think about.I had a feeling this is not the greatest deal as it stands but at the same point I had to take a stab at making offers and finally taking action and to be honest I am learning a lot from just going after this multi family stuff in the past 2 weeks.The sellers broker is the one who helped come up with the list price and i don't think they took expenses into account when determining the value.with a sales price of 525k if i got my total expenses down to that $31,500 annually including taxes, insurance, payments to the seller would that then be a good deal at the 100k down payment, obviously i will attempt to get that lower.again,thank you so much for your help and insight.Rob Krach

I definitely will do the sincere approach.

     I sincerely doubt there is a place in the US where you cannot offer a piece of property for sale for any price you dream up....hence the make me move listings on Zillow.  

So to wrap this up, does anyone have an ideas on how I can get past this hurdle and get in the game or even better, find a mentor who would be willing to help get past this "wall" Sincerely Gary 

Account Closed First, I sincerely commend you in wanting to help out your family.

My sincere apologies for grouping New Western Acquisitions with the others.

just wished to introduce myself. formerly from washington, dc, i'm just getting started in the staging arena in california and i'm looking to make some connections as well. thanks and sincerely, sydney

Sincerely,Ashley Wilson

Sincerely, Josh

newbie here too. just wished to introduce myself. formerly from washington, dc, i'm just getting started in the staging arena in california and i'm looking to make some connections as well. thanks and sincerely, sydney