@John Syron @John Syron  I know this is an old thread and companies that get credit card debt for newbies is a business I acknowledge that.. one thing it does though when those folks do this is hammer their fico.but maybe if your getting them in the companies..

They got hammered and were forced to hold an expensive property for 7 years before values were back where they bought it at.

Stockton off El Dorado and Hammer Lane.

If you want to belt and braces this - put your own curtain rails in as well.Although tenants may use pins for putting up pictures, my god, they must just jack hammers when it comes to window treatments.Also, top tip for when you renovate a property and have the drywall down - put lots of 2x4 studs around windows (above and to the sides), this ensures that if anyone does put a curtain rail up, they screw into a stud easily, rather than pepper the wall with holes trying to find one a stud that holds.

When I say he built it I mean to say that he did a lot of the hammer-and-nail building himself, and it looks like he did a fine job of it.  

But FYI I'm better putting teams together than swinging a hammer.

They sort of glaze over each strategy for an hour or so while continually hammering home that you need their program and software.

I now work in healthcare and wanting to get back into the swing of hammering again with buying multi-family fixer uppers.

I would say that 50% is ridiculous no matter what. there's also work that happens before a hammer is even picked up that homeowners never see.

However on the flip side there are many many very successful investors on this site.... its just navigating those that are all talk and no action or ... those that are just scammers plain and simple.. the scammers hammer this site on the lending side...