What I take some issue with is the techniques that guru's use to up sell and so on .. and they do nothing to qualify if the person paying them if the program does not work they are now into debt to the eyeballs and so on but then again who are we to say at some point.. think of  Hewlet and Packard they went into 15k worth of debt to start HP in late 40s or early 50s and that was a ton of money then :)

What's the risk or cost to you if you face an eviction or a bad tenant because you used basic screening techniques? 

Examples could include:Partnering with other investors to share risk.Using seller financing or lease options.Leveraging creative rehab techniques to save on costs.Negotiating with contractors in a unique way to reduce expenses.I’d love to hear any stories, tips, or approaches that helped you pull off a deal others might have instantly passed on.

So anyone who advertises or uses ANY marketing technique, can really advance businesses here. 

Examples could include:Partnering with other investors to share risk.Using seller financing or lease options.Leveraging creative rehab techniques to save on costs.Negotiating with contractors in a unique way to reduce expenses.I’d love to hear any stories, tips, or approaches that helped you pull off a deal others might have instantly passed on.

Just because a technique for acquiring or earning money is popularized by gurus and practiced unethically by the gurus students does not mean that the technique itself is a scam, unethical, immoral, or that the participants aren’t honest.   

However, there is a straightforward process that does not require any secrets or gurus, which is illustrated below (click to enlarge).I will summarize each step below.GoalsSetting written goals is the foundation of any successful venture.

It sounds like there are a lot of techniqualities to this I will be studying on. 

You'll have a property manager do the management (so you being close to it is not needed).Yes there are risks for some people to go out of state but if you learn the techniques like I have, you'll see it's actually easier and far less risky.

I always record "openly and notoriously" and I do not try to hide the change of title by using Trusts or other techniques that may be regarded as deceptive.