that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

@Iris Olivas Most local banks/credit unions can do this deal with lower fees and potentially rates than brokers.

that we’ve learned in our 24 years, managing almost 700 doors across the Metro Detroit area, including almost 100 S8 leases:Class A Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, 3-5 years for positive cashflow, but you get highest relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% the more recent norm.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 680+ (roughly 5% probability of default), zero evictions in last 7 years.Class B Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, decent amount of relative rent & value appreciation.Vacancy Est: Historically 10%, 5% should be applied only if proper research done to support.Tenant Pool: Majority will have FICO scores of 620-680 (around 10% probability of default), some blemishes, but should have no evictions in last 5 yearsClass C Properties:Cashflow vs Appreciation: Typically, high cashflow and at the lower end of relative rent & value appreciation.

Unless the borrower is self employed and takes a lot of expenses to show lower income on their returns then it usually makes sense to pay a couple thousand a year in higher interest (you can pay like 4,000 a year in additional interest for DSCR if you are saving 30+k on your tax bill kind of math lol)

The rents were much lower than I originally estimated, which was a bummer.

Once construction is complete, you can refinance into a long term dscr loan with a lower interest rate.

A prior cost segregation study increases the depreciation taken during the owner’s lifetime, lowering taxable income each year.

You'll find most HMLs will use lower operating expense margin when they underwrite a DSCR loan as they usually only factor in taxes and insurance. 

Therefore, it makes more sense for US investors to look overseas and Canadian interest rates are now significantly lower.

I think high risk dogs might not be worth it Maybe lower risk pets could provide a pet fee and give me a bigger tenant pool without such a high risk.Thanks for the advice!!