And that buy side commission sure starts to look enticing to the listing agent at that point.

The paperwork is not hard to figure out on your own--I've rarely seen anything in an addendum that I didn't understand (but they are boring).As long as you have an inspection period, the only risk is your inspection money if you decide to back out.Having said all that--I haven't read this entire thread, but I don't understand why your low offers would suddenly be more enticing to the listing agent in your town if she now has to split a commission with your buyer's agent.

i provide very good/updated/clean homes and i have a hard time finding anyone that will stick around for more than 1 yr. i feel like i have to reduce rent to entice them to stay longer. i dont get it.

I disagree about the charging the upfront fee makes a serious buyer.I can't tell you how many scammers I have seen in the commercial lending arena.I can say one problem lenders face is they get a package submitted to them and then give an LOI.Then in due diligence the buyer finds out the income levels and returns were not as stated.Now the lender wants a bigger payment down from the buyer or the buyer has to get the seller to reduce to the actual proven numbers.The deal falls out and the lender made nothing.The way to solve this is submit a detailed and verified package upfront.This way you know the numbers you are sending have been verified.Lenders site confidentiality etc. when doing loans so you can't verify other properties they have closed.If lenders state money has to be in escrow or a deposit have YOUR attorney hold in an account the lender does not have access to or authorization to.This way the money can be shown to be there and earmarked for the purposes of the loan.I am telling you these scammers will do anything to separate you from your money.I know some deals I wasn't involved in where the people chased the lender for 6 months to get back 500k.Do not let lenders PUFF fees.If they say they have to pay for appraisal then tell them you will pay the appraiser directly.If you are a legit lender and you make money when you close a loan you should have no problem with this.If however you are a fee generator mill and you hardly close anything or a point taker with upfront fees I can't tell clients to work with you.Some point takers take money to submit apps knowing the lender will not close or that it's a sham.They usually charge a small amount upfront to entice the victim.Usually 500 to a few thousand.

An offer to the borrower to pay $X for satisfy the 2nd can entice the borrower to make the payment by which the lien can be satisfied.

Id like to stay where its a bit warmer (than ND) but that's about it.My first plan was to go to Jackson ms, the amount of extremely cheap houses was enticing and I was strongly considering this for quite some time, I talked to 3 separate Realtors that were of no help as far as getting neighborhood information.

They will tell you just enough to entice you into buying into what they are really selling.

I guess I will put that one why back on the burners and see if something else more enticing comes up.

The terms just sounded so enticing, but market is market is market.....Perhaps terms just don't just fix that.Minus 100k its irresistable.

Quite the contrary, David won't say ANYTHING substantive about real estate, other than the "I've got a secret" gibberish which can have no other purpose other than to entice ignorant newbies.