Sneaking around and scheming isn't part of my playbook, but to each his own. 

I also want to put a strong emphasis on what John said.In 2020 there was a "fund syndication" that was investigated by SEC as it promotes real estate with fraudulent mechanisms and is suspected as a ponzi scheme. 

The more we encourage this mindset, the more we tend to market REI as a form of get-rich-quick alternative investing, right up there with pyramid confidence schemes like MLM and cryptocurrency.

I suspect he is of the mind if they dont pay I just take the house back etc.. these schemes have come under a lot of scrutiny in all states. 

. :-) Like this one:https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/311/topics/1140632-scammer-sentenced-to-20-years-for-real-estate-scheme-can-wholesalers-be-chargedor this onehttps://www.seattleweekly.com/news/equity-skimming-tale-of-a-local-home-sale-and-a-lawsuit/

Jay is correct, this is an industry that many people who think they can make a fast buck, they do not understand the process, some people just do not want to get educated or even read a book or two.There are the people who want to be successful and are willing to invest the time and money in education, and others who are day labors who may have never read a book in their life.Any kind of Subject 2 is not a get rich quick scheme, but like Wholesaling Properties that is the first place many people gravitate to, thinking they can get rich overnight without any effort to learn.I developed our education system to get to the investors who want to learn more or may not have the funds buy a mentoring program, our goal is to get people started on the right track and move into a great mentoring and community program like what Pace and others offer.Thank you Jay, great post

All you flippers should at least take note:Zillow Scrambles To Punt 7,000 Homes For $2.8 Billion As AI Flipping Scheme Ends In DisasterToday, Bloomberg reports that Zillow is looking to unload approximately 7,000 homes for $2.8 billion after halting their iBuyer program, according to people familiar with the matter.Zillow is likely to sell the houses to a multitude of buyers rather than packaging them in a single transaction, said the people, who asked not to be named because the matter is private.Zillow recently said it would stop making new offers in its home-flipping operation for the remainder of the year.

I really hesitate to post most of what has happened to us over the course of 4 decades .. dont want to give those bad actors that troll BP any more ideas. right now it appears their main target is beginners with up front pump and dump due diligence schemes and wire fraud or stealing wires.. 

I'm just now learning Wordpress' new block scheme design.

Then you can be sued by the owner for Fraudulent Schemes and Artifices.5.