Steve: Since you are familiar with the area would you recommend that I try to start finding property first or should I network with some investors so as not to put myself into a pinch?

The trick is to use a pair of side cutting pliers to pinch/cut the end so you get a nice small hole.

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I do not want to get pinched and have to dip hard into my own pocket, but I also do not want to have too much cash lying around as I want to continually pick up properties.thanks,strive.

They are already in a pinch--you give them value by providing non-traditional financing.

These days he mostly flies by himself to stay current, though the kids think it's a treat to go to breakfast (usually chocolate chip pancakes) with dad at another airport.

I have not found that to be an obstacle and it greatly reduces the chances of me getting myself in a pinch due to failure to disclose at the appropriate time.

I might go at like this:Labor48 = 8 units to be plastered at 6 workdays each + materials60 = 6 units needs some framing x 10 workdays each18 = Plumber days18 = Electrician days36 = Handyman daysX 2 cause I don't know what I'm talking about------------360 days x $240 = 86,400Materials/Packed work180k = 18 Ikea kitchens with appliances installed :-)$36k = 18 bathrooms installed$18k = 18 units painted$43k = $10/ft x 4300$18k = $1k per unit Fixtures Lights and Plumbing----------------$295kContingency of 20%-------------$440,000 TOTAL not including permits, health insurance, chocolate, and beer