I also have a deep passion for investing, listening to the bigger pockets podcasts, reading books, and going to seminars.

If I’m willing to go elbow deep in human poop to unclog my main line, then I’m in this game for life.

It's a great space and strategy but also requires deep pockets, serious expertise and a strong stomach.

Mixed feelings, since many people own properties, dont want them to go down on price, but deep inside want to buy cheap, i think its a 50 50 chance, that either one happens , i want to hear predictions from wizards.

You could do a hard money loan if you are getting a deep discount on the property and that will reduce your total out of pocket.

We are likely going into a pretty deep recession, so prices will likely drop.

(in that area with that criteria). that's not to say you can't find a value add opportunity for a deep discount and put some sweat equity into it. if the numbers work at 400k and not 500k well then you found out you can't pay 500k. how can you get it with 400k?

Time will tell how deep this goes.

I looked at some DEEP energy conversions and their basement refreshes look ideal but not sure what the cost of that is. i did do an energy assessment a while back and in 2014ish blew in over 2' of insulation into the attic space, so that is good there. thoughts on where I should start this effort?

If the sewer is deep or a concrete street needs replacement then double it.