I would definitely be asking the agents follow up questions on what 'not right for my client' means...Does that mean overpriced? 

I feel like we keep doing this... you're presenting like 10 different scenarios in the same breath, and then missing the distinction between each one... and then thinking you're catching me in some gotcha when you're actually just missing the point I'm making.When comparing two payoff strategies that end on the same date, you compare the savings side by side, over the life of those loans, not the full 360 months.As for the rest about Hondas and whatnot, I have no idea what point you're making.

I think you and I can totally agree that a great salesmen will do far better than someone with money and what not but no closing skills..

It is suggesting we make it positive, encouraging, supportive, and constructive by helping people get an idea of what to do, not what not to do. 

So what you're saying is it's better to spend $25k on learning what not to do (making mistakes on your own and losing all your cash...and then some), than spend it on learning both what not to do and what you should do?

But and hold investing is a hard strategy to implement.SFR are a little more realistic but the acquisition side is a little high and your basically creating yourself a job... as far as managing and what not.

Would you be scammers and what not for lowballing the seller?

I've been reaching out to local investors and wholesalers who, to my surprise, are incredibly approachable and willing to share their tips and tricks about what to do and what not to do. 

Instead of flailing with all that, I'll get good at finding deals and/or raising capital (or both), so I can add value to them, also.OK now, sure, I can still deal with proven contractors for small jobs, floors, electrical panel, roof repair, painting or whatnot -- I kinda grimace and get through that, for a buy & hold that is almost rent ready, but that's about it. 

When I try to Quote a poster I end up with all the codes and what not.