There are also a lot of people out there that will hate on getting coaching, some due to the bad actors I mentioned, but some due to a commitment to do everything themselves.

Along with bad actors using this method to get into props with very little down and then ripping rents and never paying on the mortgage because its not in their name..

They do have to step in and pay on the underlying note while they foreclose on the wrap this to protect their credit and theoretically project their equity The issue with all this sub to and wrap stuff is under capitalized investors or investors that dont know enough or investors that have a no morals and just look at these like if it works great I have little money into this no real equity and I am not on the loan so if it does not work I will just walk off .. or really bad actors that get into title rip rents and never pay the underlying I have seen that more times than you can imagine. this sub to  wrap stuff is just super dangerous and I dont care who is training people on it there are just to many things that can go wrong when your sub to deals or wrap deals are with owner occs and their mortgages.. seller carry backs like we did worked fine and the deals were smaller in those days. 

I've had a couple of bad actors, but all in all I've had good experiences and continue to provide this type of housing.   

The actor Jim Carrey has an interesting perspective “I think everybody should get rich and famous and everything they ever dreamed of so they can see that that’s not the answer.”

@Constance Kang  the first set up team are usually paid Hollywood actors. 

Now I would say many contractors do not do this with malicious intent.

I can't help but think there is something more malicious here than just a bad investment by looking at the facts.

Hiding something.How do you have same actors - Neal,  IVANNIA NAVARRETE etc in Grocapitus and Financial attunement?

If you are an elite actor or athlete or executive, NYC allows you the option to do nothing but excel at that.