Hi there BP,I was negotiating with a stubborn seller today.

They accepted another offer.lol...that is stubborn (on their part)

Bank of America has always been very stubborn about retaining their right to pursue a deficiency in their short sale approval letters.

Directions for stubborn stains were to flush the water out then squirt this stuff on and let it set overnight.

If you offer up a max purchase price right out of the gate and don't leave yourself some room to come up, you will look like the stubborn mule that won't move and invariably kill the dialogue. sorry for typos. iPad doesn't allow me to scroll back up.

Mike, you are as stubborn as they come my friend........LOLHappy Thanksgiving!

well, take heart in knowing that if you buy at the right price, you can always make deals. she may be right that perhaps in your area sellers are being stubborn and aren't motivated enough to make the numbers work (they won't sell cheaply enough to leave a healthy profit margin for you). so what?

I would stay behind and wait for the bus with the partner of my dreams.†Sometimes, we gain more if we are able to give up our stubborn thought limitations.

It is very common for banks to be just as stubborn and unrealistic about price as regular sellers.

My last property I acquired took almost 3 months of counters.ARV = 115KRehab = 7KCost = 20KProfit = 17250 (15% Min)MPP= 115K-7K-20K-17250=70750Listing Price = 92K, 240 DOMOct 1st Offer 52K cash, rejected 92K counterOct 7th Offer 55K cash, rejected 88K counterNov 1st Listing Price Reduction to 82KNov 1st Offer 55K cash, rejected 79K counterNov 14th Offer 57K cash, rejected 75K counterDec 1st Listing Price Reduction to 72K(I smell BLOOD)Dec 14th Offer 59K cash, close by 12/21.AcceptedI was able to go far below my MPP based on the DOM, pattern of price drops, and the end of the year that was approaching (plus stubbornness).As you go through more of these you'll learn the banks pattern for reductions.