Tagging my favorite LO @Wyatt Wolff

After which we want to add 2 Airbnb's to the property like a "come live in the jungle, quarter-mile from the beach" or "Jungle-lo".

As with any mortgage, make sure you are working with a rockstar LO who is looking out for YOUR best interests, not theirs.Best of luck!

The class I took was with an old timer who invested himself in multi family and we did get off the path in class in areas of investing and marketing, approaching buyers/sellers and some creative methods (L/O, first right of refusal, forcing appreciation, etc).

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Lo and behold something starts coming closer and closer to the opening, we pull it out and it is expanding foam insulation.I don't have any smoking gun answers as to why he did this.

I know we should not go off tax appraisal but generally in the area,  the Tax appraisal has almost always come is lower than what it comps He want about 50k but he will not do owner financing ot L/O.

Lo and behold, she told me that she had been investing herself for about 10 years.

I gotta tell ya', this was really a funny, funny, l  o  o  o  n  g  explanation and proof as well.You hit on all the wrong ways to invest in RE as reasons why you can't make money in RE, and never touched on the right ways to do REI...I'm guessing because you are unfamiliar with any of them.  

SELLERS market... and gaining control "subject to," via a "sandwich LO," or securing "owner financing" again makes more (flexibility, profitability) SENSE... for say the next half decade +/-.)